John Edwards Town Hall Meeting
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Here’s a link to John Edwards’ positions on a number of issues from his ‘04 VP campaign.
He says all the right things (although I don’t agree with him on the Death Penalty). Let’s see what he can do.
What he can do is say all the right things, then pander to lobbies. He’s a friggin politician after all. More importantly, let’s see how much he gets in campaign contributions from people who don’t want him to care about us.
We NEED to find someone who will actually improve things, not settle for the lesser of two evils.
I like him pretty well.
Marty, you’ve got to be more realistic about these things. A green party candidate for President is simply not going to win. The situation in this country is fast approaching a terrible event horizon and we have to turn it around now. If conservatives, particularly the religious kind, keep or regain any power in ‘08, it will be a disaster for all of us.
All politicians are not created equal. Yes, they all have to be smart and play the game, but some actually do care. Maybe dems won’t fix all our problems and create a utopia, but they are able to do quite a bit of good, especially if we tell them that’s what we want. Edwards wants to get us out of Iraq and address some neglected domestic problems which conservatives won’t even acknowledge. I think that’s a good thing, and I hope someone who supports those ideas does get elected, and I’ll vote for the candidate who supports my values and is most likely to win.
Honestly, I’m excited to see what the liberals in the new Congress are going to do. But I’m also realistic about it. There are limits to what they can accomplish, especially with King George still in power, but I really believe they will try. They are human, not monsters. They’re fallible like all of us, but that doesn’t mean that none of them care.
Speaking of being realistic, you NEED to realize that Edwards, and any other politician with millions of dollars from lobbyists, is going to do what is in their best interest, not ours. Yes, he will do some things better than the republicans, but he will still not improve this country. It will only get worse more slowly. I agree that we need to force a change or we will hit the terrible ‘event horizon’. That change is FROM the two-party system. I’m sorry, but they ARE almost all monsters who pander to the money. It is your attitude that has us in this mess in the first place. The only reason a green party or independent candidate can’t win is that people like you assume they can’t. We have just under two years to get enough people to stop believing the lies and fire the two parites, otherwise we lose ANOTHER eight trillion dollars or more to the thieves. That’s $12,000 per year from your family, and another $12,000 from mine. I’m assuming that the other third of the federal budget is not wasted as well. We can’t give up and accept a slower death, we NEED to make a real change.
I think we will just have to agree to disagree.
Are you forgetting that if we ‘agree to disagree’, and don’t band together, our children will live with the consequences? We HAVE to get this right, or they are screwed. How can you ignore the fact that Edwards is paid millions, into his campaign, to protect interests that are NOT ours? No one can be trusted who does this. The only way to take back power is to vote against the big campaigns, so money won’t control things any longer. All we have to do is make some third candidate a real threat to them, then they must listen to us instead of the lobbyists. Sorry to be so cynical, but if we believe what politicians tell us instead of where the money comes from, we lose.
I’ve said all I really want to say on this subject. If the democrats put up a candidate I like, I may even volunteer. I’m realistic, but not cynical.
Believing what and whom you want to, instead of looking at the evidence… where have I seen that before? If you aren’t cynical about politics, they WILL take advantage of you.
I’m not going to vote for a third party candidate and watch the conservatives keep or regain power. The democrats are the established liberal party. I think it’s better to work within that establishment, rather than splintering into various third-party groups. That doesn’t make me stupid or a bad person, Marty, and I don’t really care if you disagree.
I didn’t imply that you were stupid or bad (??). I just implied that you were making an emotional decision, not logical. I was hoping you wouldn’t get upset at me disagreeing. You are mistaken about the democrats being liberal. They are NOT liberal or conservative, nor are the republicans. You are supporting liberal talk, that’s all. REAL liberal change will not come from democrats at all.
Edwards and many like him have been talking this way for decades, and steeling our money. The two party system has been proven not to work. We need to fire them before we hit the ‘event horizon’ that you mentioned. It is a financial one, where the U.S. won’t be able to pay the interest on its debts. What happens then?